I am running WG 3.2 on Win 2000 Server and i load the GREAT New WGM and go to menu ....LORD is a dos based game for WG so i unclick the choice in the menu and try to locate the game......its not listed OR any other game i tryed ti install .
Now i did get a install error when trying to install LORD V1 but the yatchzee game loaded ( WG Cient game ) and i cant find it in the menu setup to make it available.........
If you are running WG 3.2 and have games running i am curious on what operating system ? . Now UPDATE i tryed to install WG 3.2 on XP Pro and it installs fine.......but the games will still not load OR of they do i cant see them in the menu design program ( weather Ansi or Not ).....
I hope i have explained it better
Al
Hmm, might be a missing system file somewhere. I'll see if I can run it down tonight and get it fixed. I have to be honest, I'm not much of an external door guy, so this one got past me.
- Highwinder
"Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
Ve2Tyj wrote:I am not doing much better LOL i missed the link....should have had my wife look for it .........I know ur a busy guy but any idead why the old Lord and other games dont work or show up in the menu tree ? ( using Win 2000 server ).....
Al
Hmm, not sure what you mean here. Could you elaborate?
- Highwinder
Sure,
I am running WG 3.2 on Win 2000 Server and i load the GREAT New WGM and go to menu ....LORD is a dos based game for WG so i unclick the choice in the menu and try to locate the game......its not listed OR any other game i tryed ti install .
Now i did get a install error when trying to install LORD V1 but the yatchzee game loaded ( WG Cient game ) and i cant find it in the menu setup to make it available.........
If you are running WG 3.2 and have games running i am curious on what operating system ? . Now UPDATE i tryed to install WG 3.2 on XP Pro and it installs fine.......but the games will still not load OR of they do i cant see them in the menu design program ( weather Ansi or Not ).....
I hope i have explained it better
Al
have you verified these to show up in a standard WGM? could be the program itself as Highwinder didnt reinvent the wheel he just put some rubber on it for better traction.
Its NOT a door game , it was made for WG / NT as well as the others
Al
Highwinder wrote:
Ve2Tyj wrote:
Sure,
I am running WG 3.2 on Win 2000 Server and i load the GREAT New WGM and go to menu ....LORD is a dos based game for WG so i unclick the choice in the menu and try to locate the game......its not listed OR any other game i tryed ti install .
Now i did get a install error when trying to install LORD V1 but the yatchzee game loaded ( WG Cient game ) and i cant find it in the menu setup to make it available.........
If you are running WG 3.2 and have games running i am curious on what operating system ? . Now UPDATE i tryed to install WG 3.2 on XP Pro and it installs fine.......but the games will still not load OR of they do i cant see them in the menu design program ( weather Ansi or Not ).....
I hope i have explained it better
Al
Hmm, might be a missing system file somewhere. I'll see if I can run it down tonight and get it fixed. I have to be honest, I'm not much of an external door guy, so this one got past me.
have you verified these to show up in a standard WGM? could be the program itself as Highwinder didnt reinvent the wheel he just put some rubber on it for better traction.[/quote]
Thats a good point , if i can take it even further and ask if anyone remembers how to use the ANSI version of the menu editor LOL......its been too long since i used it.
Ve2Tyj wrote:have you verified these to show up in a standard WGM? could be the program itself as Highwinder didnt reinvent the wheel he just put some rubber on it for better traction.
Thats a good point , if i can take it even further and ask if anyone remembers how to use the ANSI version of the menu editor LOL......its been too long since i used it.
Please let me know how this goes. As far as I can tell, I have included all system files. I have actually not made any changes to the WGM, just compatibiluty stuff that the installer adds to Windows XP, 2003 and Vista32. The WGM itself is compeltely stock in the Generic Release. Please give this a good test, as I don't have a WG system, up and running with any games on it.
By the way, I updated the documentation in most all of these posts and the on-screen documentation in the downloadables themselves to reflect 32-bit Vista/2008 compatibility.
That sure was careless of me. Sheesh...
- Highwinder
"Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
Highwinder wrote:Please let me know how this goes. As far as I can tell, I have included all system files. I have actually not made any changes to the WGM, just compatibiluty stuff that the installer adds to Windows XP, 2003 and Vista32. The WGM itself is compeltely stock in the Generic Release. Please give this a good test, as I don't have a WG system, up and running with any games on it.
By the way, I updated the documentation in most all of these posts and the on-screen documentation in the downloadables themselves to reflect 32-bit Vista/2008 compatibility.
That sure was careless of me. Sheesh...
- Highwinder
dont feel bad im usually into a 3rd or 4th major release before i do any docs
Thank YOu for fixing the WG Manager , it is a most welcomed addition to the old WG-BBS.....
On a second note i have been very busy desiging menu's with the HPE ( Hyper Media Page Editor ) and the next question is ? can any one out there change a few seeting in that program ? Like if you set it to a Link from a button it errors because it looks for IE in the programs directory ( old school )....
Thank You for fixing the WG Manager , it is a most welcomed addition to the old WG-BBS.....
Al
Oh, hey - my pleasure. Glad to have been able to contibute something to the Worldgroup world.
I personally think WG is the coolest BBS system ever made, and by a longshot (though I have to humbly bow before SynchroNet as well, also totally awesome and even much better in a few ways). What really made WG cool for me is the insanely cool GUI client capabilities. Nothing ever came even remotely close to that. PowerBBS tried, but it was terrible.
It's an absolute shame that WG just feels like it's bascially been left for dead. (To clarify, that's a bold-faced dare for WG4 to actually get taken seriously enough to get released).
- Highwinder
"Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
It's an absolute shame that WG just feels like it's bascially been left for dead. (To clarify, that's a bold-faced dare for WG4 to actually get taken seriously enough to get released).
- Highwinder
It may be BOLD for me to say this , but i honestly beleave the internet is taking a step backwards . Big business i walking away as its offering in ONline sales are not what they expected and it may actualy receed back to the people ( no dial up please ) . I think WG never died it just got put on hold , now if we can get the people involved again and play the game right , it can come back with evenmore power . I am nOT a programmer but i do have a very good sense of direction .
WG Wishlist---->
The future of WG is to create NOT 1 but a MASS of WG , we link every system in every way and incorpoate every city capable into 1 lump pot and become the AOL of the future. Now i dont mean be a supper Power internet provider BUT a Super Power in content Games/News/Music/all out entertainment ........
Thats how WG can and still could be BIG. Whats in it for US as system operators ----> Advertising dolars <------ hey if google can make millions by telling us where to go , i 'll tell you where to go for less LOL
It already does , see dialsofts programs for ones that add long file names LOL.......See the future is happening ( LOL )
AL
I'm talking about built-in long filename support - something that shouldn't take a $200 add-on product. One major setback of Worldgroup is the insane prices associated with doing anything with it. A fully loaded 255-node system should cost no more than $500 max (considering you can download similar systems for free). It's no mystery why WG is in a state of nothingness. It's priced to be inaccessible.
"Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
I'm talking about built-in long filename support - something that shouldn't take a $200 add-on product. One major setback of Worldgroup is the insane prices associated with doing anything with it. A fully loaded 255-node system should cost no more than $500 max (considering you can download similar systems for free). It's no mystery why WG is in a state of nothingness. It's priced to be inaccessible.[/quote]
I hear ya,
the 256 line count should be gone too.........I guess its up to us the small guys to make it happen
Ve2Tyj wrote:... the 256 line count should be gone too.........I guess its up to us the small guys to make it happen
AL
Nah, I'm not talking about anyone doing that, we don't legally own it. I do not subscribe to calling something "abandonware" when it isn't. But those who own/are in charge of WG could certainly take change of the situation and get this product moving before it has sat long enough to become completely obsolete and worthless. It's well on it's way.
SynchroNet BBS is outstanding, and is given away for free. It even supports virtually every door ever made. But before you start to thik I'm plugging Synchronet, here's the wake-up call: even being 100% free, feature-packed and extremely stable, SynchroNet hasn't generated any kind of BBS re-awakening out there at all. The crickets are still chirping.
For BBSes to come back, they need to be extremely modernized, with focus on the web interfaces for the message forums. For example, why are we posting on freeware "phpBB" system when we should be posting on a WG system?
- Highwinder
"Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
It's an absolute shame that WG just feels like it's bascially been left for dead. (To clarify, that's a bold-faced dare for WG4 to actually get taken seriously enough to get released).
- Highwinder
It may be BOLD for me to say this , but i honestly beleave the internet is taking a step backwards . Big business i walking away as its offering in ONline sales are not what they expected and it may actualy receed back to the people ( no dial up please ) . I think WG never died it just got put on hold , now if we can get the people involved again and play the game right , it can come back with evenmore power . I am nOT a programmer but i do have a very good sense of direction .
WG Wishlist---->
The future of WG is to create NOT 1 but a MASS of WG , we link every system in every way and incorpoate every city capable into 1 lump pot and become the AOL of the future. Now i dont mean be a supper Power internet provider BUT a Super Power in content Games/News/Music/all out entertainment ........
Thats how WG can and still could be BIG. Whats in it for US as system operators ----> Advertising dolars <------ hey if google can make millions by telling us where to go , i 'll tell you where to go for less LOL
For starters, I'd be happy enough just to see WG support long filenames in the file areas.
- Highwinder
already being implemented, i had it working 95% but was still having problems in the a/h file listing, just need a few more modules i have to plug into
It already does , see dialsofts programs for ones that add long file names LOL.......See the future is happening ( LOL )
AL
I'm talking about built-in long filename support - something that shouldn't take a $200 add-on product. One major setback of Worldgroup is the insane prices associated with doing anything with it. A fully loaded 255-node system should cost no more than $500 max (considering you can download similar systems for free). It's no mystery why WG is in a state of nothingness. It's priced to be inaccessible.
yeah but no system out there comes remotely close to its security.
i wouldnt go as low as 500 but a 256 node system with full capability should be $999 we have to keep in mind this product can run someones small business, email servers, etc... a lite version with some limitations $499
Ve2Tyj wrote:... the 256 line count should be gone too.........I guess its up to us the small guys to make it happen
AL
Nah, I'm not talking about anyone doing that, we don't legally own it. I do not subscribe to calling something "abandonware" when it isn't. But those who own/are in charge of WG could certainly take change of the situation and get this product moving before it has sat long enough to become completely obsolete and worthless. It's well on it's way.
SynchroNet BBS is outstanding, and is given away for free. It even supports virtually every door ever made. But before you start to thik I'm plugging Synchronet, here's the wake-up call: even being 100% free, feature-packed and extremely stable, SynchroNet hasn't generated any kind of BBS re-awakening out there at all. The crickets are still chirping.
For BBSes to come back, they need to be extremely modernized, with focus on the web interfaces for the message forums. For example, why are we posting on freeware "phpBB" system when we should be posting on a WG system?
- Highwinder
problem with newer door games is they are still too limited, yeah back in the 80's - 90's with dial-up you needed to constraint online time, so login play your game turns and go on, and some games need to be like that but in terms of RPG's and exploration games WG is hands down the way to go.
tele-arena, majormud, all of those could entertain you for hours on end and if a door ever came to that mimiced one of them it would very well take off and the crickets would go silent atleast for a year or so.
wg 3.30 actually introduced the early stages of a new web interface for forums/email, etc.... before visuals are done i just wanna get the search engines to pick em up, that is clutch.
also in regards to legally owning it and writing things for it, i dont own it and i have released several service packs for WG, all ya need is a developers license.
Questman wrote:Of course, the Netvillage "version" of Worldgroup is illegal as they don't own the rights to Worldgroup.
So anything you're doing for them, Dan, is helping keep Worldgroup down.
im not helping i was just pointing out the new web interface look/feel, im just saying once WG forums can be picked up in search engines queries it would be a HUGE step forward.
Questman wrote:You alluded to code changes you're making in the baseline.
yeah but i keep all my work i have no intention of having it sent out in any illegal, versions i have spent far too many man hours to have it made a mockery of or be included in pirated software.
if anything its for my server, only thing im having trouble with now is having the perl API work from within a pre bc 5.5 compiler but all that in due time, since i began my own MMORPG i been way too busy lately anyhow, i want to release a small beta of it but i got to go over it and make sure any sounds/art/graphics arent IP of someone else.
the original idea was to allow WG to be the "server" and the WGMAN being the "client" and making it WG specific but the platform we ended up going with was c# and the .net 2.0 framework so plugging into WG wasnt optional.
Ve2Tyj wrote:
I am running WG 3.2 on Win 2000 Server and i load the GREAT New WGM and go to menu ....LORD is a dos based game for WG so i unclick the choice in the menu and try to locate the game......its not listed OR any other game i tryed ti install .
Now i did get a install error when trying to install LORD V1 but the yatchzee game loaded ( WG Cient game ) and i cant find it in the menu setup to make it available.........
If you are running WG 3.2 and have games running i am curious on what operating system ? . Now UPDATE i tryed to install WG 3.2 on XP Pro and it installs fine.......but the games will still not load OR of they do i cant see them in the menu design program ( weather Ansi or Not ).....
I hope i have explained it better
Al
Their are 2 separate menu tree's one for client and one for ansi. Click the wee tree from your WG client menu bar, then toward the bottom you'll see
Client /Server *
Terminal 0
click the one you want to work on.
You will need to add each module you run to each menu tree. One for terminal(ansi) and one for Clients. This is also a good way to edit menu comands without takeing the bbs down.
If you want I have made a pdf of the client manual and editor manual. you can view it on gcomm archive if its up or download it from my bbs. I belive its in the ISVSOLO file area. Thier is also a few other pdfs of WG manuals and stuff thier. You can use the WG client software with my bbs.
Highwinder wrote:Worldgroup Manager Generic Public Release 2007.11.07
Compatibility Enhanced for Win9x, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista32 and Server 2008(32) Will install but will not run on Vista64 or Server2008(64)
Main Features:
Complete Worldgroup 3.3 WGM Client Installation, All Features
Full, Clean, Uninstall Support
Compatibility-enhanced for Windows XP/2003/Vista32 & Server 2008(32)
Enhanced Windows Start Menu Group
Note: This is not a 32-bit version of WGM - it is the 100% original 16-bit WGM client that has been re-packaged as described above into a professional 32-bit InstallShield self-installer.
Highwinder wrote:Worldgroup Manager Generic Public Release 2007.11.07
Compatibility Enhanced for Win9x, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista32 and Server 2008(32) Will install but will not run on Vista64 or Server2008(64)
Main Features:
Complete Worldgroup 3.3 WGM Client Installation, All Features
Full, Clean, Uninstall Support
Compatibility-enhanced for Windows XP/2003/Vista32 & Server 2008(32)
Enhanced Windows Start Menu Group
Note: This is not a 32-bit version of WGM - it is the 100% original 16-bit WGM client that has been re-packaged as described above into a professional 32-bit InstallShield self-installer.
Highwinder wrote:Worldgroup Manager Generic Public Release 2007.11.07
Compatibility Enhanced for Win9x, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista32 and Server 2008(32) Will install but will not run on Vista64 or Server2008(64)
Main Features:
Complete Worldgroup 3.3 WGM Client Installation, All Features
Full, Clean, Uninstall Support
Compatibility-enhanced for Windows XP/2003/Vista32 & Server 2008(32)
Enhanced Windows Start Menu Group
Note: This is not a 32-bit version of WGM - it is the 100% original 16-bit WGM client that has been re-packaged as described above into a professional 32-bit InstallShield self-installer.
frcorey wrote:Worldgroup 5?
wait until questman hears about this.
Yep
WG 5 to be released Very Very soon, its nice , and expensive
Al
Well, I said that because Questman Owns Worldgroup,
and unless netvillage has a license to make a new version it will be lawyers at ten paces.
He forbid them to release version 4 years ago.
frcorey wrote:Worldgroup 5?
wait until questman hears about this.
Yep
WG 5 to be released Very Very soon, its nice , and expensive
Al
Well, I said that because Questman Owns Worldgroup,
and unless netvillage has a license to make a new version it will be lawyers at ten paces.
He forbid them to release version 4 years ago.
Interresting........................ Looks like war and too bad WG5 is very well done..
WG 5 to be released Very Very soon, its nice , and expensive
Al
Well, I said that because Questman Owns Worldgroup,
and unless netvillage has a license to make a new version it will be lawyers at ten paces.
He forbid them to release version 4 years ago.
Interresting........................ Looks like war and too bad WG5 is very well done..
Al
well, in all fairness, they are pretty fair programmers thou. they did custom wg stuff for corperations for years.
I'm gong to chime in here...after all these years there still seems to be a mystery who really owns WG..what gives with all this? If Questman owns this, why is netvillage still in operation, why didn't he have them shut down? Why does metropolis say to goto netvillage to get WG..I guess I don't understand..all I've ever read is QM saying he owns WG, nothing more really...maybe he should consider legal action against these people?
Franchise_24 wrote:I'm gong to chime in here...after all these years there still seems to be a mystery who really owns WG..what gives with all this? If Questman owns this, why is netvillage still in operation, why didn't he have them shut down? Why does metropolis say to goto netvillage to get WG..I guess I don't understand..all I've ever read is QM saying he owns WG, nothing more really...maybe he should consider legal action against these people?
Questman owns it check out the many post here and on the SEC showing NV has no claim to wg as when Galacticomm ceased due to bankrupticy all assets became property of the bank who foreclosed. end of galacticomm. Questman buys from bank.
not much else needs to be said.
I would love to see NV provided publicly how they aquired galacticomm assets from the forclosure, altho that discussion should move to its own topic..
Franchise_24 wrote:I'm gong to chime in here...after all these years there still seems to be a mystery who really owns WG..what gives with all this? If Questman owns this, why is netvillage still in operation, why didn't he have them shut down? Why does metropolis say to goto netvillage to get WG..I guess I don't understand..all I've ever read is QM saying he owns WG, nothing more really...maybe he should consider legal action against these people?
Questman owns it check out the many post here and on the SEC showing NV has no claim to wg as when Galacticomm ceased due to bankrupticy all assets became property of the bank who foreclosed. end of galacticomm. Questman buys from bank.
not much else needs to be said.
I would love to see NV provided publicly how they aquired galacticomm assets from the forclosure, altho that discussion should move to its own topic..
Well i'd love to see those bank papers that say Questman own it , just to finalise it...
Thanks for the thread BUT questman has still NOT produced any paperwork proving he to be the owner........I'd like to see the bill of sale from the bank ?
Al
ps: as far as now he just keeps saying "I Own it" well i own it 2 LOL
Thanks for the thread BUT questman has still NOT produced any paperwork proving he to be the owner........I'd like to see the bill of sale from the bank ?
Al
ps: as far as now he just keeps saying "I Own it" well i own it 2 LOL
E-Mail me (questman at themajorbbs d0t com).
I have nothing to hide. The physical assets were stolen and moved across the state border from Florida to Maryland. The court documents previously linked show not only the foreclosure but the instruction that the sheriff should go physically recover the assets. Unfortunately when they crossed the state line the Florida sheriff couldn't do it. It's almost felonious at this point because they crossed state lines with stolen property.
As for the Bill Of Sale it's my right not to post my stuff for the world to see but if you want to see something I can arrange it.
Thanks for the thread BUT questman has still NOT produced any paperwork proving he to be the owner........I'd like to see the bill of sale from the bank ?
Al
ps: as far as now he just keeps saying "I Own it" well i own it 2 LOL
E-Mail me (questman at themajorbbs d0t com).
I have nothing to hide. The physical assets were stolen and moved across the state border from Florida to Maryland. The court documents previously linked show not only the foreclosure but the instruction that the sheriff should go physically recover the assets. Unfortunately when they crossed the state line the Florida sheriff couldn't do it. It's almost felonious at this point because they crossed state lines with stolen property.
As for the Bill Of Sale it's my right not to post my stuff for the world to see but if you want to see something I can arrange it.
Quest i think you owe the community the ease of mind that indeed you are the owner . I personaly planned to get involved with WG5 by purchasing it , BUT now i findmy self in a crossfire.......
Whom ever can show Bill of sale OR a form of legall ownership i will resepct BUT if both of you have reasonable ownership papers and they are legal.....hell i cant be held respobsible for any decissions i make from that point.....
Thats why i say Questman............. Show us the BEEF....i will also ask the other party to provide said ownship as well.......
Quest show us your cards of get outta the game........
.........I know ur a busy guy but any idead why the old Lord and other games dont work or show up in the menu tree ? ( using Win 2000 server ).....
