Setup Incoming Telnet for Worldgroup?

[Malakai]

I have been working at this pretty much all night. Worldgroup 3.3nt, have it installed, and I can log in to the bbs through my lan but not from the internet. I have a speedstream 5200 ADSL modem connected through a linksys wireless-g WRT54G router with the latest firmware.

Both have port forwarding settings and their own IPs. The adsl modem has a lan address of 192.168.254.x, and gives the router an address of 192.168.254.2.

After that, the linksys gives out its own addresses of 192.168.1.x

I don't have a static IP or a domain name yet, but while I'm working on the system, I do have a dyndns account for it.

On the ADSL modem, it'll only let me forward ports to the 192.168.254.x addresses, and I do that, and then from the linksys, I port forward the telnet and http ports to the pc with worldgroup on it.

After that, I try the web browser on the dyndns address, and it sends me to the adsl modem's setup page. When I try to telnet to worldgroup through the dyndns address, it just says connection refused.

Any help would be appreciated.

[Malakai]

A little update. This morning, I've been working on this several more hours with no luck. I tried to setup the modem straight to the PC, with out the use of the linksys router, and then port forward the telnet/http/irc ports to the new IP addresses, and still no luck.

So, I'm guessing the problem is in my adsl modem.

[ccs]

I have found some providers block some of the common ports to keep you from running servers. I think you should call your provider and ask if they allow ports 23 (telnet) or 80 (http).

Joe

[Malakai]

It's very possible that they are blocking the ports from the dsl side, even though the ports worked fine on their dialup side. I guess my next step is to install worldgroup or twgs or something on the dsl side on another pc, and then try to telnet in from the dialup side.

Like I said, I did it in reverse before, and it worked, but who knows how they got it set up. I'm getting an interesting error when people try to login though.

TCP/IP ERROR - SEND error 10054 (port 23) Connection reset by peer

Now, that could be nothing... possibly a firewall on the client's end that I got to try to telnet in... I guess we'll know more in the next day or 2.

[Malakai]

ok, i got that part figured out.. had to disable dhcp.. next thing.. when i log in through the local lan ip address, worldgroup is pretty fast. however, if i log in through my dynamic/domain name address, the bbs seems a lot slower, even though it appears to also be going through the lan and not through the internet (the modem's data/bandwidth meter isn't blinking).

In other words, if I telnet from the lan in through 192.168.1.x, it is fast. If I telnet from the lan in through x.dynip.org, it's slow.

I haven't had a chance to try the connection through another broadband IP on the client side, to see if it is getting good speed or not.

[Questman]

ok, i got that part figured out.. had to disable dhcp.. next thing.. when i log in through the local lan ip address, worldgroup is pretty fast. however, if i log in through my dynamic/domain name address, the bbs seems a lot slower, even though it appears to also be going through the lan and not through the internet (the modem's data/bandwidth meter isn't blinking).

In other words, if I telnet from the lan in through 192.168.1.x, it is fast. If I telnet from the lan in through x.dynip.org, it's slow.

I haven't had a chance to try the connection through another broadband IP on the client side, to see if it is getting good speed or not.

I run bbs.themajorbbs.com using dyndns.org - it's not that bad at all.

What is your connection speed from your ISP? What kind of connection? Is your modem updated?

[Malakai]

I'm using 3MB down, 512k up dsl, latest modem firmware.

[Questman]

I'm using 3MB down, 512k up dsl, latest modem firmware.

512k is not a lot - and that speed can be hampered by downloading or playing a game.

My cable connection gets hammered if I'm downloading off newsgroups - making the BBS really slow and laggy.

Do you have anything else running?

[Malakai]

The internet connection is shared to 2 computers, but usually, no one is on the net. After further testing, it seems that some times, it's faster, some times slower. So, I suppose it's just the occasional internet or my ISP's lag.

I think that almost every thing is setup correctly now. This has definately been a learning experience.

There is just 1 more problem. I finally have got worldlink configured and working, but I can't seem to figure out how to make the worldlink forums work.

I've made forums and added the correct echos, but I'm not receiving any messages from the conferences, and when I tried to send out a test message, it also did not sent out the message.

Do I need to enable nntp or sign up at another bbs/hub to receive and send messages on the forums?

[dspain]

The internet connection is shared to 2 computers, but usually, no one is on the net. After further testing, it seems that some times, it's faster, some times slower. So, I suppose it's just the occasional internet or my ISP's lag.

I think that almost every thing is setup correctly now. This has definately been a learning experience.

There is just 1 more problem. I finally have got worldlink configured and working, but I can't seem to figure out how to make the worldlink forums work.

I've made forums and added the correct echos, but I'm not receiving any messages from the conferences, and when I tried to send out a test message, it also did not sent out the message.

Do I need to enable nntp or sign up at another bbs/hub to receive and send messages on the forums?

who are you linking up with? i recieve just fine on all 3.

[Malakai]

I'm connecting through worldlink.worldgroupware.com - are there any others I should try?

[dspain]

I'm connecting through worldlink.worldgroupware.com - are there any others I should try?

hmm should be ok, i know rick recieves on his majorbbs system.
what exactly is happening?

[Malakai]

Well, I set up several forums through the forum-manager, and then added the echos: wf:alt.bbs.ads and so on, and it just doesn't appear to be receiving or sending the messages out.

worldlink itself seems to be working though. Here are the forums I have setup:
alt.bbs.ads
user.emulation
user.rose
user.xbox
user.ufo
user.sports.football
user.pets.dogs
user.pets.cats
user.poetry
user.Programming

Like I said, I'm not receiving anything from them...

[Logos]

I'm coming into this a month late but, I believe you need a static IP and must have your host pointing to the name of your site. I ran mine that way for two years and you could get to it by typing in the name or the IP address.

[The Storm]

I'm coming into this a month late but, I believe you need a static IP and must have your host pointing to the name of your site. I ran mine that way for two years and you could get to it by typing in the name or the IP address.

I tried this and was unable to get it to work either. I will try a couple of other things but it might not be doable until another WorldLink server is created.

[dspain]

I'm coming into this a month late but, I believe you need a static IP and must have your host pointing to the name of your site. I ran mine that way for two years and you could get to it by typing in the name or the IP address.

I tried this and was unable to get it to work either. I will try a couple of other things but it might not be doable until another WorldLink server is created.

currently bbs.elwynor.com has it working for newsfeeds.
i havent had time to toy with it, i got 5-6 modules i wanna finish up this month then im gonna tinker with it.
i guess worst case scenario i could always mod up the current worldlink source to just feed from my synchronet news server.

[painter]

I have been working at this pretty much all night. Worldgroup 3.3nt, have it installed, and I can log in to the bbs through my lan but not from the internet. I have a speedstream 5200 ADSL modem connected through a linksys wireless-g WRT54G router with the latest firmware.

Both have port forwarding settings and their own IPs. The adsl modem has a lan address of 192.168.254.x, and gives the router an address of 192.168.254.2.

After that, the linksys gives out its own addresses of 192.168.1.x

I don't have a static IP or a domain name yet, but while I'm working on the system, I do have a dyndns account for it.

On the ADSL modem, it'll only let me forward ports to the 192.168.254.x addresses, and I do that, and then from the linksys, I port forward the telnet and http ports to the pc with worldgroup on it.

After that, I try the web browser on the dyndns address, and it sends me to the adsl modem's setup page. When I try to telnet to worldgroup through the dyndns address, it just says connection refused.

Any help would be appreciated.

I am new to this system so be easy on me.(lol) I used to run MajorBBS 4.11 till when WorldGroup came out. I have a copy of WorldGroup 3.0 and I am trying to get this working off of the Internet. One problem is that I can get the Defalt gateway address and the IP address. When I try to put them in the setup file it will only work with my network. I have the same Linksys Router as you.the WRT54G . How do you get the address from the modem? I have a Toshiba cable modem. any help?

[Malakai]

It's very possible that the modem itself it stopping the router from routing incoming port requests like mine was. I forget what they call it, but what you want to do, if the modem supports it, is to bypass the modem's login system completely and use the router to login to the internet.

Secondly, you'll want to disable DHCP on the router. You will not be able to get incoming internet requests with DHCP enabled. That means you'll have to assign each of your PCs, whether it be your normal PCs for internet and gaming, to the BBS/Worldgroup servers.

For example, you may use 192.168.1.100 for the worldgroup server, 192.168.1.101 for twgs or some other game server, on and on... Then 192.168.1.102 for your internet PC.

You'll also have to disable the DHCP stuff on your network cards, and then add the address manually, as well as the DNS servers your ISP is using. If you do not know it, then you may temp be able to just put in 192.168.1.1, but I do remember having some problems with doing that..

[dspain]

I have been working at this pretty much all night. Worldgroup 3.3nt, have it installed, and I can log in to the bbs through my lan but not from the internet. I have a speedstream 5200 ADSL modem connected through a linksys wireless-g WRT54G router with the latest firmware.

Both have port forwarding settings and their own IPs. The adsl modem has a lan address of 192.168.254.x, and gives the router an address of 192.168.254.2.

After that, the linksys gives out its own addresses of 192.168.1.x

I don't have a static IP or a domain name yet, but while I'm working on the system, I do have a dyndns account for it.

On the ADSL modem, it'll only let me forward ports to the 192.168.254.x addresses, and I do that, and then from the linksys, I port forward the telnet and http ports to the pc with worldgroup on it.

After that, I try the web browser on the dyndns address, and it sends me to the adsl modem's setup page. When I try to telnet to worldgroup through the dyndns address, it just says connection refused.

Any help would be appreciated.

I am new to this system so be easy on me.(lol) I used to run MajorBBS 4.11 till when WorldGroup came out. I have a copy of WorldGroup 3.0 and I am trying to get this working off of the Internet. One problem is that I can get the Defalt gateway address and the IP address. When I try to put them in the setup file it will only work with my network. I have the same Linksys Router as you.the WRT54G . How do you get the address from the modem? I have a Toshiba cable modem. any help?

not a problem try this:

in windows NT (2000/xp/2003/vista)

click start-click run-type cmd
type ipconfig /all

the ip address is the ip your router gave you

in windows 9.xx (95/98/me)

click start-click run-type config
type ipconfig /all

bling there it is again

in win 3.11 if you have ms-lan manager or something similiar theres some tcp tools in the nwclient/tools dir that do the same thing

you can even manually set your ip

the gateway will be the ip you use to access your router ex: 192.168.1.1

set any ip you want as the last digit any # between 2-254

ex: if gateway is 192.168.1.1 you can use 192.168.1.100

also wg 3.0 is ok but get with rick and get a 3.3 code you can download wg 3.3 from arcticzone.dyndns.org/wgdev/dev_cvs/wg33cd.zip

if hes pretty busy with work get with me ill get ya setup.
also let me know how your setup turns out ill try to help ya out.

[dspain]

It's very possible that the modem itself it stopping the router from routing incoming port requests like mine was. I forget what they call it, but what you want to do, if the modem supports it, is to bypass the modem's login system completely and use the router to login to the internet.

Secondly, you'll want to disable DHCP on the router. You will not be able to get incoming internet requests with DHCP enabled. That means you'll have to assign each of your PCs, whether it be your normal PCs for internet and gaming, to the BBS/Worldgroup servers.

For example, you may use 192.168.1.100 for the worldgroup server, 192.168.1.101 for twgs or some other game server, on and on... Then 192.168.1.102 for your internet PC.

You'll also have to disable the DHCP stuff on your network cards, and then add the address manually, as well as the DNS servers your ISP is using. If you do not know it, then you may temp be able to just put in 192.168.1.1, but I do remember having some problems with doing that..

you can still run servers with dhcp enabled. on ym development pc's which dont run on my comcast but rather on my verizon dsl i have dhcp enabled and have a 2.0 3.3 amnd 4.0 dev pc all running with no problem.

,y worldgroup 2.20b test bbs runs off of a cavaier DSL using dhcp too.
dhcp will just automatically assign ip's to a said pc on your gateway
port forwarding is where the servers come in.

[Malakai]

Yeah, I imagine that some routers would let you have both DHCP and port forwarding, but he's got the same one I do, and it doesn't allow that. I went through the same thing, and until I read about it somewhere, I gave up and disabled DHCP, and it works fine.

Now, there is some hacked firmware you can install, and it's suppose to allow all kinds of configurations, and it may allow some thing like that, but there have been several reports of the routers biting the dust after the firmware upgrade.

You may want DHCP disabled any way, because it's easy for any one to just take your access, even if not intentionally, because most laptops and such are pre-configured to take the first or strongest singnal they see and automatically connect. If they don't have an assigned address, they don't get access.

Why am I mentioning this? Well, a few months back, a neighbor asked me to take a look at his laptop. He had messed up the fonts and resolution so bad that you couldn't even see enough of the screen to change the configuration. I had to set one of my PCs up beside of it, and then do the TAB thing, and just change every thing blindly.

Any way, upon checking his computer out, I noticed he had internet access and asked him if he had a wireless service. He said "no, I don't have a phone line or any thing like that. When I brought the laptop home, it connected to the internet automatically."

This guy isn't very computer savy, and he really thought that when you buy a laptop, the internet comes with it lol. After checking it out further, he was using my internet connection. I didn't really care, but that means if he can get free internet access, others could too.

So, the point is, if I would have disabled DHCP back then, he wouldn't have had access to the net. Now, this wouldn't be as hard to get through for more experienced internet users, because this really isn't securing the network.

[dspain]

[quote="Malakai"]Yeah, I imagine that some routers would let you have both DHCP and port forwarding, but he's got the same one I do, and it doesn't allow that. I went through the same thing, and until I read about it somewhere, I gave up and disabled DHCP, and it works fine.

yeah i mean i personally disable dhcp so i know exactly what pc has what ip i got em labeled. [12 pcs on one wall ya gotta do that, lol]


Now, there is some hacked firmware you can install, and it's suppose to allow all kinds of configurations, and it may allow some thing like that, but there have been several reports of the routers biting the dust after the firmware upgrade.

yes hacked firmwares are a big no no. o use all linksys routers and hubs
i use what they have on linksys.com

You may want DHCP disabled any way, because it's easy for any one to just take your access, even if not intentionally, because most laptops and such are pre-configured to take the first or strongest singnal they see and automatically connect. If they don't have an assigned address, they don't get access.

in that case i use wep encrypyion and generate keys for the other pcs.
i do it for the same reason.
i also develop an ultima online server and one of the guys that designs some of the maps and stuff has a dsl on a wireless network.
i goto his house and my laptop picks up before i even enter his driveway, lol
so i can imagine the neighbors and why he is bitching about lag all the time on a 768k dsl with only 2pcs

[painter]

not a problem try this:

in windows NT (2000/xp/2003/vista)

click start-click run-type cmd
type ipconfig /all

the ip address is the ip your router gave you

in windows 9.xx (95/98/me)

click start-click run-type config
type ipconfig /all

bling there it is again

in win 3.11 if you have ms-lan manager or something similiar theres some tcp tools in the nwclient/tools dir that do the same thing

you can even manually set your ip

the gateway will be the ip you use to access your router ex: 192.168.1.1

set any ip you want as the last digit any # between 2-254

ex: if gateway is 192.168.1.1 you can use 192.168.1.100

also wg 3.0 is ok but get with rick and get a 3.3 code you can download wg 3.3 from arcticzone.dyndns.org/wgdev/dev_cvs/wg33cd.zip

if hes pretty busy with work get with me ill get ya setup.
also let me know how your setup turns out ill try to help ya out.[/quote]

I am downloading the file. I have two 6 user packs that I can't seem to get to work on the WG service. Got any Ideas on any software problems with that? I never used the WG software before as I like DOS. I know. Windows has a lot to offer but DOS is so clean.LOL. I will have to dust off my old backup's and multi comm port card just to see the old days.LOL.

[dspain]

I am downloading the file. I have two 6 user packs that I can't seem to get to work on the WG service. Got any Ideas on any software problems with that?
yeah wg 3.xx dont use the user six packs anymore.


I never used the WG software before as I like DOS. I know. Windows has a lot to offer but DOS is so clean.
the windows version is very nice but offers alot of internet services.
for a standard bbs to login play games do some chat i stay woth 2.0 for dos.

LOL. I will have to dust off my old backup's and multi comm port card just to see the old days.LOL

nah i run one pc using win98 forced into a dos shell, worldgroup v2.0, and a 3com ethernet card.
boom all setup, no extra hardware,etc....

[painter]

nah i run one pc using win98 forced into a dos shell, worldgroup v2.0, and a 3com ethernet card.
boom all setup, no extra hardware,etc....[/quote]

You have WG V2.0? I need a copy of disk 1. My disk is bad and I have the other 5 disks. I have a lot of game that came on CD for V2.0 but not code for them. I might even still have some old door games too. I only need disk 1.... Please.... Please....LOL... I never thought I would ever do that... LOL...

[dspain]

nah i run one pc using win98 forced into a dos shell, worldgroup v2.0, and a 3com ethernet card.
boom all setup, no extra hardware,etc....

You have WG V2.0? I need a copy of disk 1. My disk is bad and I have the other 5 disks. I have a lot of game that came on CD for V2.0 but not code for them. I might even still have some old door games too. I only need disk 1.... Please.... Please....LOL... I never thought I would ever do that... LOL...[/quote]

you want 2.0? no problem
i got 1.0,1.01,2.0,3.0,3.12,3.13,3.20,3.30, lol

pick one
my archives dont use that disk1,2,3,4,5 blah blah stuff i mean hell this is the new millenium where we can fit 8gb on one removable storage device, i dont think 2mb should be split up,lol

and what games you talking about? you need the wg2 entertainment modules too? quest for magic? swrods and sorcery? talk to me

[painter]

you want 2.0? no problem
i got 1.0,1.01,2.0,3.0,3.12,3.13,3.20,3.30, lol

pick one
my archives dont use that disk1,2,3,4,5 blah blah stuff i mean hell this is the new millenium where we can fit 8gb on one removable storage device, i dont think 2mb should be split up,lol

and what games you talking about? you need the wg2 entertainment modules too? quest for magic? swrods and sorcery? talk to me [/quote]

I think we need to take this too another area. I will get a list of games for ya. Is there a area for getting needed " bad disk " software?

[dspain]

you want 2.0? no problem
i got 1.0,1.01,2.0,3.0,3.12,3.13,3.20,3.30, lol

pick one
my archives dont use that disk1,2,3,4,5 blah blah stuff i mean hell this is the new millenium where we can fit 8gb on one removable storage device, i dont think 2mb should be split up,lol

and what games you talking about? you need the wg2 entertainment modules too? quest for magic? swrods and sorcery? talk to me

I think we need to take this too another area. I will get a list of games for ya. Is there a area for getting needed " bad disk " software? [/quote]

you can email me or send me a msg on msg messenger.
today i will have my nt bbs completed i hope with a list of all files available to you.

[ccs]

nah i run one pc using win98 forced into a dos shell, worldgroup v2.0, and a 3com ethernet card.
boom all setup, no extra hardware,etc....

You have WG V2.0? I need a copy of disk 1. My disk is bad and I have the other 5 disks. I have a lot of game that came on CD for V2.0 but not code for them. I might even still have some old door games too. I only need disk 1.... Please.... Please....LOL... I never thought I would ever do that... LOL...

you want 2.0? no problem
i got 1.0,1.01,2.0,3.0,3.12,3.13,3.20,3.30, lol

pick one
my archives dont use that disk1,2,3,4,5 blah blah stuff i mean hell this is the new millenium where we can fit 8gb on one removable storage device, i dont think 2mb should be split up,lol

and what games you talking about? you need the wg2 entertainment modules too? quest for magic? swrods and sorcery? talk to me [/quote]

I have it split up by disks and in one big file. If you need disk 1 of wg2.0 I can email it to you if it is ok with Rick.

Joe

[Questman]

Yes, that's fine.

[painter]

[you can email me or send me a msg on msg messenger.
today i will have my nt bbs completed i hope with a list of all files available to you.[/quote]


OMFG! Now I remember all the sleepless nights at the keyboard getting the system ready to go online.

I found a backup of the Board I used to have online. One of the backup disks is F*&#ed. But I worked around it. WG V2.0 is the one I had online. I can't find the Act code for 3.0. Now. The Big question is. Did they make a convert program to go from 2.0 to 3.0?

[ccs]

[you can email me or send me a msg on msg messenger.
today i will have my nt bbs completed i hope with a list of all files available to you.

OMFG! Now I remember all the sleepless nights at the keyboard getting the system ready to go online.

I found a backup of the Board I used to have online. One of the backup disks is F*&#ed. But I worked around it. WG V2.0 is the one I had online. I can't find the Act code for 3.0. Now. The Big question is. Did they make a convert program to go from 2.0 to 3.0?[/quote]

They may have had a converter program. I will look on the cd they sent me when 3.0 came out. I think but I'm not sure that the user data has not changed format since 3.0. Untill 3.3 anyway.

I also have a sirus user exporting program for 2.0 that dumps the user info, class info and key info to text files. Then I use the ver for 3.0 and import all the data into the 3.X server.

It was called userbase I think... If no one cares I could post it it is small. (Rick - Who would own it now?)

Joe

[dspain]

[you can email me or send me a msg on msg messenger.
today i will have my nt bbs completed i hope with a list of all files available to you.

OMFG! Now I remember all the sleepless nights at the keyboard getting the system ready to go online.

I found a backup of the Board I used to have online. One of the backup disks is F*&#ed. But I worked around it. WG V2.0 is the one I had online. I can't find the Act code for 3.0. Now. The Big question is. Did they make a convert program to go from 2.0 to 3.0?

They may have had a converter program. I will look on the cd they sent me when 3.0 came out. I think but I'm not sure that the user data has not changed format since 3.0. Untill 3.3 anyway.

I also have a sirus user exporting program for 2.0 that dumps the user info, class info and key info to text files. Then I use the ver for 3.0 and import all the data into the 3.X server.

It was called userbase I think... If no one cares I could post it it is small. (Rick - Who would own it now?)

Joe[/quote]

it should detect it on install.
backup the original then install 3.x over it.
then check the registry upgrade type should say

2.0-3.0

[Logos]

I access the WEB from a router and receive back through the router. My BBS is ste to load auto, but the system uses a static IP.

[Questman]

All things Sirius are now owned by Dialsoft, with the sole, but notable, exception of Game Connection.

[ccs]

I access the WEB from a router and receive back through the router. My BBS is ste to load auto, but the system uses a static IP.

You need to map port 23 and point it to your bbs.

Joe

[painter]

not a problem try this:

in windows NT (2000/xp/2003/vista)

click start-click run-type cmd
type ipconfig /all

the ip address is the ip your router gave you

in windows 9.xx (95/98/me)

click start-click run-type config
type ipconfig /all

bling there it is again

in win 3.11 if you have ms-lan manager or something similiar theres some tcp tools in the nwclient/tools dir that do the same thing

you can even manually set your ip

the gateway will be the ip you use to access your router ex: 192.168.1.1

set any ip you want as the last digit any # between 2-254

ex: if gateway is 192.168.1.1 you can use 192.168.1.100

also wg 3.0 is ok but get with rick and get a 3.3 code you can download wg 3.3 from arcticzone.dyndns.org/wgdev/dev_cvs/wg33cd.zip

if hes pretty busy with work get with me ill get ya setup.
also let me know how your setup turns out ill try to help ya out.[/quote]


Okay. After a week I think I got everything down now.
You have to set your DMZ and your static IP and turn off your DHCP and set your static IP info on all of your computers hooked to your router.

I talked to Nate at netvillage about the client not working on XP and he said he would e-mail me the info to get it to work. When he does if you want me to I will post the info.

Things have changed so much from the time I got out of BBSing. Back then a 486-25 with 32 megs of ram was a HOT computer.

Everyone have a GREAT day.

[dspain]

not a problem try this:

in windows NT (2000/xp/2003/vista)

click start-click run-type cmd
type ipconfig /all

the ip address is the ip your router gave you

in windows 9.xx (95/98/me)

click start-click run-type config
type ipconfig /all

bling there it is again

in win 3.11 if you have ms-lan manager or something similiar theres some tcp tools in the nwclient/tools dir that do the same thing

you can even manually set your ip

the gateway will be the ip you use to access your router ex: 192.168.1.1

set any ip you want as the last digit any # between 2-254

ex: if gateway is 192.168.1.1 you can use 192.168.1.100

also wg 3.0 is ok but get with rick and get a 3.3 code you can download wg 3.3 from arcticzone.dyndns.org/wgdev/dev_cvs/wg33cd.zip

if hes pretty busy with work get with me ill get ya setup.
also let me know how your setup turns out ill try to help ya out.

Okay. After a week I think I got everything down now.
You have to set your DMZ and your static IP and turn off your DHCP and set your static IP info on all of your computers hooked to your router.

I talked to Nate at netvillage about the client not working on XP and he said he would e-mail me the info to get it to work. When he does if you want me to I will post the info.

Things have changed so much from the time I got out of BBSing. Back then a 486-25 with 32 megs of ram was a HOT computer.

Everyone have a GREAT day. [/quote]

you need an xp client? dont wait on nate click this link

http://arcticzone.dyndns.org/wgxpfix.zip

[banjaxster]

I'm connecting through worldlink.worldgroupware.com - are there any others I should try?

If anyone needs the ip address for worldlink it's 216.135.141.68