Bypass users Busy

Montroze · Post by **Montroze** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:11 am

Wondering if their is a sysop only utility to bypass users busy signal, without having to go to the emulation screen and type on the users screen? Would be handy to get a message to the user with some kind of util. to bypass all busy's.

Montroze · Post by **Montroze** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:01 am

Well i guess this is impossible. Guess its back to emulating and typing =b on the users screen and send a message.

dspain · Post by **dspain** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:30 pm

Montroze wrote:Well i guess this is impossible. Guess its back to emulating and typing =b on the users screen and send a message.

how do you want to bypass the busy flag?

it is possible in several ways.

if you have the wg2 source you can modify paging.c to ignore busy flags
if the sender has the MASTER or HASMST flags.

or you can write some form of message addon that does the above but is nit a baseline add-on.

or just unbusy them by using my global control addon and type =UB <userid>

this does have a drawback, if they are transferring a file usng X/Y/Z modem protocol it will give buffer errors to the user receiving the file and timeout.

Iceman · Post by **Iceman** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:49 pm

Montroze wrote:Well i guess this is impossible. Guess its back to emulating and typing =b on the users screen and send a message.

be very careful when you use emulation... people do NOT like that one bit... if there is something you need to tell someone... write them a mail that will show up when they relog... then knock them offline so they see it.

its a double edged sword of trust... you just want to say something, but it creates a lot of suspicion over time... its usually best to never use it, most things can be handled without it.

or page from the sysop account which should be keyed to cut through anyones busy flag... unless they are doing a system process which shouldn't be interrupted anyhow.

dspain · Post by **dspain** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:58 pm

Iceman wrote:
Montroze wrote:Well i guess this is impossible. Guess its back to emulating and typing =b on the users screen and send a message.
be very careful when you use emulation... people do NOT like that one bit... if there is something you need to tell someone... write them a mail that will show up when they relog... then knock them offline so they see it.

its a double edged sword of trust... you just want to say something, but it creates a lot of suspicion over time... its usually best to never use it, most things can be handled without it.

or page from the sysop account which should be keyed to cut through anyones busy flag... unless they are doing a system process which shouldn't be interrupted anyhow.

actually thinking about it there is nothing in WG2 that puts a busy flag on unless it is a sensitive system process unless they are connected through Rlogin, sometimes coming in from the dos made rlogin stuff busy'd ya out, if they are rlogin connected out from inside Wg that busies em too.
but yeah in my years of running a wg system i have ran an emulation once and that was to help a user having a problem within TA.

Iceman · Post by **Iceman** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:38 pm

dspain wrote: actually thinking about it there is nothing in WG2 that puts a busy flag on unless it is a sensitive system process unless they are connected through Rlogin, sometimes coming in from the dos made rlogin stuff busy'd ya out, if they are rlogin connected out from inside Wg that busies em too.
but yeah in my years of running a wg system i have ran an emulation once and that was to help a user having a problem within TA.

You're right, I think aside from something like an rlogin/telnet out... without a globals package you can't turn on a busy flag yourself... so if there is a globals package installed I'm pretty sure every single one has an unbusy flag option for the sysop heh. (I remember being annoyed writing mails back in the day and having to turn the busy flag on to stop logon notices)

Montroze · Post by **Montroze** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:46 pm

Iceman wrote:
Montroze wrote:Well i guess this is impossible. Guess its back to emulating and typing =b on the users screen and send a message.
its a double edged sword of trust... you just want to say something, but it creates a lot of suspicion over time... its usually best to never use it, most things can be handled without it.

Good point, I will stick to emailing them.

dspain · Post by **dspain** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:01 am

Montroze wrote:
Iceman wrote:
Montroze wrote:Well i guess this is impossible. Guess its back to emulating and typing =b on the users screen and send a message.
its a double edged sword of trust... you just want to say something, but it creates a lot of suspicion over time... its usually best to never use it, most things can be handled without it.

Good point, I will stick to emailing them.

i think i even have a free Quick MEssage addon for wg2 floating around somewhere, it has a unique option to send a new message reminder to busy users when they leave the busy status.

=Sysop Hello there, do you have a minute to chat about something?

-- Quick Message Sent To Sysop --

-- Quick Message Received From Test --

-- While you were in the FILE TRANSFER add-on, you received a quick message from Test type =READ to read your messages --